Scheduling Questions

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The Summit Learning Platform supports development of cognitive skills, content knowledge, and self-directed learning skills.

Students spend the majority of their class time engaged in Project Based Learning (or teacher guided explorations in math).  Projects enable students to apply their learning in real world contexts, and to build cognitive skills that are useful across disciplines and beyond classroom walls.

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Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Scheduling for Electives

Q: My daughter is confused about scheduling 7th Grade choir.  She thinks that she can sign up for choir for the first semester only and then sign-up for choir again if she decides she’d like to continue into the second semester.  She assured me that both Mrs. Bassett and Mr. Grams told her that if she wanted to continue choir after the first semester, she could sign up again at the start of the second semester.  That’s not true, is it?  I believe she misunderstood your answer to her question.  Please clarify.  Thank you.

A: Yes, that is true.  I said that to the students but forgot to say it to the parents.  For this class only if students sign up for Mill Creek Singers 1st semester and then decide they'd like to continue, we will allow them to go into 2nd semester choir.  HOWEVER, this is a one-way door.   Students cannot sign up for the year and then decide to drop choir 2nd semester.

Q. We did our schedule but I wanted to verify that it all went through ok.  Could you please check this for me?

A. The best way to check this would be to log in to power school, click on the class registration button, then go to the blue "View Course Requests" link at the top of the page right above the list of required classes.

Q: Do I have to have a recommendation form even for courses I'm listing as alternates?

A: Yes.  If the computer plugs in one of the alternate selections, we will check to see that the student has a recommendation to be in the class.  

Q: I can't find Choir in the course descriptions

A: It's listed under "Mill Creek Singers"

Q: If my child takes French in 8th grade and then changes to Spanish in 9th grade, would this count as her two credits toward graduation; or do both credits have to be in the same language?

A:  Beginning with the graduation class of 2016, all students must complete two years of the same language for high school credit or have an equivalent experience.  If the student does not receive two years of high school credit, s/he must complete a standards based assessment and show proficiency at the novice-mid level for one high school credit or novice-high for two high school credits.

Q. What grade must a student have to get high school credit for foreign language?

A: For each semester (1/2 credit of language) they need to have an 80% overall in the class or pass the semester exam with a 70% or greater.

Q: My daughter would like to choose French as her language, but she would like to choose Spanish as an alternate if she does not get into French. Please advise.

A: Power School does not currently allow selection of other languages as alternates.

Q: My child says he was told he should wait until high school to take language.  Is that true?

A:  No.  Students were advised that this is a course for high school credit and it is taught at a high school pace.  There is regular homework in the 8th Grade foreign language elective and students should be prepared to have homework every night.   The choice of whether to take language for HS credit in middle school is an individual decision.  For some students it may be helpful, for others it may be overwhelming.  Feel free to talk to me (or have your child talk to me) if you'd like further discussion to help sort this out. 

Q: We have tried several times to log in, but the system keeps telling us our login or password is invalid. What do we do?

A: Sometimes the logins and passwords have numbers that look like letters or letters that look like numbers. If it looks like a lower-case "L" and that's not working, try typing a numeral "1" (one) instead. Same issue for numeral "0" (zero) and letter "O." Substituting the look-alike number for the letter or vice-versa should resolve most problems. Also, if you have a login with the format "Lastname, 123" make sure you have a SPACE AFTER THE COMMA. Otherwise the computer won't recognize the login ID.

Q: For community service and leadership is the ten hours of community service weekly or for the whole quarter?

A:  For the whole quarter.  You can do an hour a week, or 4 hours in one weekend, etc.  Note: Students who want to be Junior Advisors (JA's) for CS&L in 8th grade MUST take CS&L in 7th grade.

Q: My 7th grader entered electives, but because 8th grade math placements haven't been done, Power School only totals 6 credits instead of 7.

A: That's the way it's supposed to work for 8th grade.  Math will be added later.

Q: Are you more likely to get the electives you want if you schedule sooner?

A: No. As long as you submit your electives before the end of the scheduling window (April 1) it doesn't matter when you do it. Power School doesn't care whether you scheduled first or last as long as it's in by the deadline.

Q: Where can I get my power school login and password?

A: See main office at Creekside (6th Grade) or main office at Mill Creek (7th grade.)

Q: For the teacher recommendations, do I just cut out the ones that I want and mail them to you, or send the whole form?

A: Send the WHOLE FORM so I can put it in a 3-ring binder. If you cut out just the teacher recommendation, it won't have a name on it, and I'll have little scraps of paper all over my office.  Please put FIRST AND LAST NAME on recommendation forms and please write legibly.

Q: We hit the "submit" button and got sent back to the login screen. How do we know if the schedule went through?

A: If you are in the program too long (about 30 minutes), it will "time out" and automatically log you off the system. Try writing all your electives on paper first, then entering all choices with your preferred list right in front of you. When you click "submit" it should give you a confirmation page. Print that page. You can also go to the View Future Course Requests link at the top of the scheduling page. If your choices show up there, they have been accepted by the system.

Q; "I'm not sure if my child's course selections were actually submitted. Can you check on this for me?"

A: While we'd like to oblige, we just don't have time to login into 600 students' power school accounts and verify submissions. You can check this out yourself by logging in to power school, clicking on the "class registration" button, and then clicking on the "View Future Course Requests" link (in small blue font at the top of the course requests page.) NOTE: at least on my computer, the class registration page seems to want to scroll down by itself when it opens, so you may need to scroll back to the top to see the "View Future Course Requests" link. When you click on that, you will either get a table that shows requested courses and alternates, or a message in red that says "There are no course requests for this student." If you get the table, print a copy. If you get the message in red, resubmit the electives.

Q. I forgot to print my confirmation page. What should I do?

A. Login to power school and go to the scheduling page. At the top of the page in small blue print is a link that says "View Future Course Requests." Clicking that link will give you a page that looks like this. Verify that the courses you selected are there and print that page as your confirmation.

Q: When we looked at the print out of the confirmation page after hitting "submit,"the choices were listed in alphabetical order rather than in order of preference. How do we ensure that consideration is given to the top choices?

A: The computer will sort electives into two categories: the "Top 8" and the "Alternates." The computer does not recognize preferences among the Top 8 (i.e., it cannot distinguish the "Top 4" out of the "Top 8".)  If you are scheduling a year-long class such as music or foreign language, you only need to choose four additional electives. The computer will try to get these four classes in addition to music / language when it is scheduling around year-long courses.  The computer will try to select from the Top 8 choices first. If it is unable to meet those requests, it will choose from the alternates until it finds something available.

REMINDER: Entering electives on the web page does not actually "schedule" students, it only sends info to a data base that we will use to build students' schedules.

Q: I was interested in taking foods next year as an elective. I was wondering if there will be vegetarian recipes to choose?

A: In Foods class, meat products may occasionally be used throughput the quarter, but we do make modifications for students with special dietary restrictions and specific food allergies.

Q: Where do I turn in the teacher recommendation form?

A: Turn it in to the classroom teachers. They will get it delivered to Mill Creek.

Q. I can't think of 10 Alternates I really want. What should I do?

A. The computer will not accept your submission without the alternates. Students do sometimes get their alternate choices, and the more information you can provide, the better your chances of getting a course you want, or at least a course you can live with. If you can't think of ten alternates you really want, think of the "least worst," or courses you'd be willing to accept if you had to. I see students every year who say, "I can't think of ten alternates, so I'm only going to enter two." What sometimes happens is we run out of choices before we run out of empty slots, and the student shows up on the first day of school to find that s/he only has a partial schedule. S/he then has to pick through the "leftovers" after everyone else has scheduled ... all 8th graders, all 7th graders, all the new kids who come in over the summer. It's not pretty, and then the student REALLY can't find courses s/he likes. The bottom line is, you can pick from a wide range courses you might not be thrilled with now and have some say about it, or you can pick from a very limited selection of courses you don't like in the fall and get stuck with what's left. Think of the alternates like insurance - the more you pick, the better you're covered.

 Q. Why doesn't our confirmation sheet show a math class?

A. All 6th grade (future 7th grade) confirmation sheets should show a math class. 7th graders (future 8th graders) will have their math class assigned at a later date based on placement results.

Q: I'm taking one of the sports electives (Individual & Team Sports or Personal Fitness). How do I ensure that I don't get that at the same time as the Phys Ed Focus class or as one of my after-school sports?

A: Because the computer does the scheduling, we no longer have control over when sports electives get scheduled. As a result of time constraints, we do not make schedule adjustments if the computer happens to schedule a sports elective at the same time as the Phys Ed class (or even if it schedules Phys Ed AND a sports elective at the same time as an after school sport.) If you are concerned about having two or three sports activities in the same day, it may be safer not to sign up for the sports electives. If you are willing to take a chance and "tough it out" if all three activities should get scheduled at the same time, have at it. (This rarely happens, but does on occasion.)

Q: If I take year-long classes (music or foreign language) does that mean I only get 4 other electives?

A: You still have 8 electives, it's just that 4 of them happen to be music or foreign language. Think of the year-long courses as an opportunity to study a subject more in-depth rather than as something that limits opportunities in other areas. It's not like you do the same thing each quarter in a year-long class -- it's a progression to more advanced knowledge throughout the year. There are merits to both the nine-week and the year-long electives; I would avoid thinking "I guess I'll drop music so I can take more of the nine-week electives.”  People often regret that decision, and once you've missed out on a year's worth of instruction in a music or language class, it's difficult to get back in.

Q: What if I'm taking music AND foreign language? Do I still have to pick 8 electives?

A: No, but you should still pick ten alternates in case you don't get the foreign language.

Q: I've called and e-mailed several times today, but have received no response. Why won't anyone return my calls?

A: Counselors are SWAMPED, so it may take several days for them to respond to phone calls / e-mails. Please be patient and understand that they are dealing with a huge volume of calls and requests, and have many other duties besides scheduling. What seems to happen during scheduling season is that the anxiety level goes through the roof and we get (literally) a voice mail at 7 AM with the home phone #, another at 9 AM with the work #, and another at 1:30 with the cell phone #, plus a couple e-mails during the day. If 20 people leave 3 voice messages each, we can spend an hour just downloading voice mail... this delays our response to your original call. It would be best to start with just one phone call or e-mail. Don't panic if you don't get an immediate response... we'll get to you as soon as we can. I'd suggest that if you haven't heard from me in 48 hrs, feel free to call or e-mail again (sometimes I get so swamped that I can lose track of calls/e-mails.) I can't speak for the HS counselors, but e-mail is generally a better way to contact me since I can work on that from other locations besides my office.

Q: What if I changed my mind and want to make some changes in my schedule after I submitted it?

A: As long as it's before the deadline, you can log back in, make whatever changes you want, and resubmit. Changes cannot be made after the registration window is closed.

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Scheduling for Band, Chorus or Orchestra

Q: My daughter is confused about scheduling 7th Grade choir.  She thinks that she can sign up for choir for the first semester only and then sign-up for choir again if she decides she’d like to continue into the second semester.  She assured me that both Mrs. Bassett and Mr. Grams told her that if she wanted to continue choir after the first semester, she could sign up again at the start of the second semester.  That’s not true, is it?  I believe she misunderstood your answer to her question.  Please clarify.  Thank you.

A: Yes, that is true.  I said that to the students but forgot to say it to the parents.  For this class only if students sign up for Mill Creek Singers 1st semester and then decide they'd like to continue, we will allow them to go into 2nd semester choir.  HOWEVER, this is a one way door.   Students cannot sign up for the year and then decide to drop choir 2nd semester.  This is for CHOIR (Mill Creek Singers) only.  Band and Orchestra are full-year.   

Q: You would have to drop whatever Electives that fill the Second Semester time slot to accommodate the 2nd semester of choir, is that correct?  And that’s OK?

A. Yes, in this situation only.  It does not open the door for students to go changing electives willy-nilly for any course they choose.

Q: If I'm taking Band or Orchestra, should I still pick 8 electives and 10 alternates?

A: Students should only select up to 4 additional electives when they choose band or orchestra (fewer if choosing Vocal music or Foreign Language.)  Put another way, select the number of electives to reach the total required by the counter at the bottom of the page ("6" for eighth grade and "7" for seventh grade.)  If they select more than the system wants it will not save their selections and they will have to start over. You still have to select 10 alternates.

Q: What if I'm taking music AND foreign language? Do I still have to pick 8 electives?

A: No, but you should still pick ten alternates in case you don't get the foreign language.

Q:  We just made random choices for the alternates. These are not choices that our child really wants. Please confirm this is the correct way to have done this.

A: Do not make "random" selections ANYWHERE, because your child might end up getting one of them. For a possible strategy for working with this, see next question.

Q. Why does band only show as .5 credit? Is this right?

A. It's .5 per semester, for a total of 1.0.  You must select S1 AND S2 when registering for Band or Orchestra.

Q: If I take year-long classes (music or foreign language) does that mean I only get 4 other electives?

A: You still have 8 electives, it's just that 4 of them happen to be music or foreign language. Think of the year-long courses as an opportunity to study a subject more in-depth rather than as something that limits opportunities in other areas. It's not like you do the same thing each quarter in a year-long class -- it's a progression to more advanced knowledge throughout the year. There are merits to both the nine-week and the year-long electives; I would avoid thinking "I guess I'll drop music so I can take more of the nine-week electives. People often regret that decision, and once you've missed out on a year's worth of instruction in a music or language class, it's difficult to get back in.

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding Scheduling for Foreign Language

Q: If my child takes French in 8th grade and then changes to Spanish in 9th grade, would this count as her two credits toward graduation; or do both credits have to be in the same language?

A:  Beginning with the graduation class of 2016 all students must complete two years of the same language in for high school credit or have an equivalent experience.  If the student does not receive two years of high school credit, s/he must complete a standards based assessment and show proficiency at the novice-mid level for one high school credit or novice-high for two high school credits.

Q. What grade must a student have to get high school credit for foreign language?

A: For each semester (1/2 credit of language) they need to have an 80% overall in the class or pass the semester exam with a 70% or greater.

 

 

Why We Do Not Make Scheduling Changes

In the past few years, Mill Creek has had to enforce a "no schedule change" policy for the elective classes. In general, people have been accepting and supportive of this approach. However, sometimes we hear feedback that the policy is "unfair."

Requests for exceptions to the policy can create an adversarial situation. It is important to understand that the policy exists because we care about our parents and children and need to make the best use of the time we have available. With that said, an explanation of the reasons for the policy is below.

Years ago, when we had a much smaller student population, Mill Creek had a system that allowed students to have "one schedule change per year with parent and teacher approval," with all changes ending on the third day of each quarter. Extensive abuse of that policy, combined with the increasing number of students, led to a number of problems:

1. Frequent Fliers

A student would make a schedule change first quarter with the understanding that that would be the only change for the year. Then, third quarter, the same student would request a second schedule change. When the student was reminded of the "one change per year" policy and the request was denied, the student would bring his/her parent in to discuss (or argue) the matter. Sometimes students and/or parents would  go to the teacher or principal and try to make a "special deal." If I made a second schedule change, I would invariably have a string of phone calls or personal visits from angry students and parents demanding to know why one student was allowed to break the rules, while another wasn't. This was a reasonable complaint, which is why we returned to a no-changes policy.

2. "Can't you just make a schedule change for my child (i.e., break the rules) if we don't tell anyone?"

Unfortunately, the "I won't tell anyone" scenario has never worked. Kids compare schedules on the first day of school, and notice when other student schedules change. Parents tell each other when their students get to make changes. Families are justifiably angry to learn that exceptions are made for some and not others. Experience has shown that if we say the rules don't apply to one student, the rules don't apply to anyone.

3. "What Deadline?"

Under the original "allow one change" plan, changes were supposed to occur only during the first three days after the start of the quarter; this was announced at the beginning of each quarter during morning announcements. Yet there would consistently be phone calls stating, "I know we're a week into the quarter but..." usually followed by the "special deal" scenario described above. This was very frustrating for both the counselor and the teachers, who were trying to finalize class lists and get grade books in order.

4. "They're electives. We should be able to change them."

"Electives" means we can CHOOSE them, not change them willy-nilly throughout the year.

5. "Shopping Around To Get Classes With Friends" (aka "Mass Migration") 

It was not uncommon for a group of four or five students to arrive together in the counseling office and ask, "which classes have five spaces open?" with the intent that we would change all their schedules so they could be in class with their friends.

6. Excessive Number of Requests for Changes

When we started the "no change" policy four years ago, it had gotten to the point where we were doing over 100 schedule changes per quarter, in addition to discussions with students whose changes couldn't be accommodated or who changed their minds.

Even if changing a class were a ten-minute task (which it's usually not), multiply that times several hundred students and you are talking about a lot of class disruption and other work going undone. It translates to ten full days of counseling time each year lost entirely to schedule *changes* alone.

We put in a substantial amount of time from April through June preparing elective registration sheets and course description books, taking these materials to the classrooms, explaining them, and giving students and parents information on what each course is about. We do this with the expectation that students and parents will be able to make good decisions based on the information provided. Significant effort is devoted to ensuring as best as possible that students get the courses they request.

In order to do what is best for kids, we have to consider what is best for the student population as a whole in addition to what is best for the individual

A list of common scheduling problems and ways to avoid them is posted below in a further effort to help everyone get courses they want and avoid conflicts later on.

Common Scheduling Problems and How to Avoid Them

Below is a list of the most common scheduling problems, suggestions for how to avoid them, and specific examples of the problem described. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the Mill Creek counseling office at 424-4150 extension 5051 or email us: gramsr@dexterschools.org

1. Making uninformed decisions.

Examples of this problem include students who want to drop a Personal Fitness elective when they realize the class involves running, or students who want to drop CS&L when they find out it requires 10 hours of community service outside of the school day. Students have also been known to ask for a schedule change with the more generic comment, "I didn't know what this class was about."

Students and parents are encouraged to get as much information about a course as possible prior to making a selection on the elective sheets. Along with the description printed in the course description books, additional information is available on the Mill Creek web site. It is also helpful to talk to siblings and friends who are familiar with the courses to get further information. I will also be happy to answer questions as best I can during course selection time.

Ultimately, it takes more time to try to argue for a schedule change that won't be granted than it does to do the research in the first place. Please save us both some time and take a few minutes to learn about the courses before making selections.

2. Deciding you are no longer happy with the schedule you chose.

Examples range from students who get into the class and say, "I can't believe I chose this course. I don't know what I was thinking" to students who say, "I don't want to be in band or orchestra anymore. I've never liked my instrument anyway." Additional examples include, "I don't have time to be in solo & ensemble or find an accompanist" and "I don't have time to do the out of school requirements for CS&L or Future Entrepreneurs."

It's true that people sometimes change their minds. However, for reasons explained on the "Why We Don't Change Schedules" link, we can't afford to accommodate everyone's whims once schedules have been created. If students don't like their instrument or have serious doubts about whether they want to be in a music class every day for an entire year, it is important to have that discussion BEFORE signing up for an elective.

(Lest this be misconstrued, I have to say in passing that as a musician myself, I think band, chorus, and orchestra are great experiences for kids and I would like to see them stay involved throughout their time in Dexter schools. While I have no desire to discourage students from participating in band or orchestra, I want them to be happy with whatever decision they make. If they decide they want to drop band halfway through the year, it will be too late and they will be in the class for the year.)

On several occasions, the reverse has happened: students have not signed up for music, then changed their minds halfway through the year. Students have come to me in tears because two months into school they decided they would like to be part of the music program that they decided to quit the previous year.  While I would like to see lots of students take music classes, the fact remains that once the schedule is set, it will not be changed (see the "Why We Don't Change Schedules" link for more information.) If music is an important part of your life and you think you will need to be in a music class, please make sure you sign up for it as one of your electives.

3. Choosing children's electives without discussing them with the child…or ignoring the child's requests.

This sometimes leads to family arguments halfway through the school year, with parents calling and requesting a schedule change and often pleading "please don't punish my child for my decisions." This conflict can be avoided by choosing classes cooperatively with children and parents. (Or, alternately, if parents wish to choose classes without children's input, please be prepared to accept responsibility for the choices rather than suggesting it's school's fault that the child got the courses that were requested.)

3a. Letting someone else pick the electives.

Every year I get someone who tries to get a schedule change by claiming, "He only signed up for that course because his brother talked him into it" or "She didn't want any of those classes - her sister did the scheduling for her." Regardless of which friend or relative provided advice or assistance, you are responsible for the choices that get submitted. Schedule changes will not be made because you disagree with the choices you allowed someone else to make.

4. Submitting electives without checking a child's elective choices.

We expect that parents are reviewing their child's choices prior to submitting the elective request to power school.

5. Randomly listing classes as alternates.

Students sometimes complain that they don't like a class they were given as an alternate, stating, "I only listed that class because I thought I wouldn't get it." Because students do sometimes get alternates, it is important to choose alternates as carefully as you make your first choices.

6. Not listing any alternates

Some students do not list ANY alternates. If the first choices are full and there are no alternates listed, the student's schedule will be left blank and the student will have to pick from whatever's left over in the fall.

7. Listing courses taken in 7th grade as alternates for 8th grade.

The majority of elective courses at Mill Creek cannot be repeated. Listing a course you've already taken has the same effect as not listing any alternates at all.

8. Choosing classes you aren't interested in because you think a friend is going to be in the class.

When choosing electives, ask yourself, "Will I really enjoy this class if my friend isn't in it?" Be sure to take the class because it interests you, not because you think a friend will be there.

9. Wanting to change a class because you do not like the teacher.

Schedules will not be changed because someone does not like the teacher. If you have a conflict with a teacher, please contact the teacher directly. You may also request assistance in resolving any conflicts from the counselor if you wish.

10. Getting too emotionally invested in electives

The elective classes are a way for students to explore a variety of options and/or to have some fun at the end of the day. We do the best we can to provide students with the courses they want. However, in the past two years, there has been an increase in the number of students who seem to feel that their lives are ruined if they don't get the electives they want. This is not an exaggeration.

We would like to give every child everything s/he asks for, but there are only a certain number of spaces available. For example, there are only 100 students each year who can take the Flight class. If 140 students sign up for it, 40 of them will be left out. It's important to keep in mind that Mill Creek is not the be-all and end-all of opportunities to explore new interests. There are a number of other opportunities available in the community. If you feel you would like to pursue those, please feel free to contact the Mill Creek counseling office and I will be happy to try to get you connected with the appropriate resources.

Electives are nine-week courses. The student will be much happier if s/he is encouraged to enjoy the opportunity to explore an area of potential interest for a few weeks even if it was not his/her top choice. Many students find that once they get into a course they weren't sure about, they actually end up liking it.

11. Not getting a confirmation page after submitting electives in Power School.

If you are in the program over 30 minutes, or if there is an error in the requests, Power School will send you back to the login page. When electives have been submitted correctly, the screen will show a confirmation page.

12. Not turning in a recommendation sheet for courses that require a recommendation. 

Each year, students sign up for courses that require a recommendation, but do not get the sheet signed or do not turn the sheet in.   Please be sure your signed sheet is turned in if you requested courses that require a recommendation.

Courses Students May Repeat in 8th Grade

The classes listed below can be chosen again in 8th grade if they were taken in 7th grade. All others may be chosen only once for the entire time you are at Mill Creek.

  • Band, Chorus, Orchestra
  • Cadet Teaching
  • Community Service and Leadership
  • Ecological Restoration
  • Forensics
  • ILH (Individual Learning Hour)
  • Individual and Team Sports
  • Math Power Hour
  • Movin to the Music
  • Personal Fitness
  • School Newspaper (may not be repeated if student earned a D or E in the class in 7th grade)
  • Write It Right

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